Investing Series: How to look for and choose an index fund to invest your money in
This is a part of the Investing Series.
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It is no secret that I think everyone should pretty much invest their money in index funds (either as mutual funds or as ETFs) and be done with it.
THEN.. and ONLY THEN…
If you want to play around and have fun on the stock market, then invest in individual stocks.
If you want to build an income stream after you have established a solid understanding of investing in index funds, then take a look at dividend income investing.
I’ve written plenty on the subject of index funds here in my Investing Series, but the few questions I may have missed may have been the most obvious (to me), so it didn’t dawn on me to even talk about them until this morning.
HOW DO YOU CHOOSE AND LOOK FOR AN INDEX FUND TO INVEST YOUR MONEY IN?
Simple.
Look for the one with the lowest Management Expense Ratio (MER).
DONE.
Class dismissed.
..OKAY OKAY, LET’S DO A FEW EXAMPLES
As I am Canadian, my favourite examples to trot out are those e-series mutual funds offered by TD Canada Trust, or Vanguard Canada’s ETFs which you can buy using my favourite brokerage in Canada: Questrade.
- Questrade: Use my Questrade referral link for $50 in free trades.
For my Americans out there, this applies to you too, but you should look at your local bank or brokerage (Schwab for instance, even TD Bank) and Vanguard instead of Vanguard Canada.
Same goes for iShares. Instead of iShares Canada, look at iShares.
Read: What is the difference between an index mutual fund and an index ETF? (Hint: None, they’re just traded differently.)
LIST OF INDEX FUNDS I WILL COVER:
- TD Canada Trust E-Series (Canada)
- Vanguard Canada
- iShares Canada
Click on ANY image below to biggify.
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Let’s start with TD Canada Trusts’ E-Series:
HOW CAN YOU TELL WHICH MUTUAL FUND IS AN INDEX FUND?
It will generally say it in the name, but other times it may not be as obvious.
Index Funds, if you aren’t already aware, are funds that track the index or average of the stock market.
- Read: What is an index fund?
For instance, with TD Canada Trust E-Series Funds… they are ALL index funds.. see?
It says so in the name: Index
- TD Canadian Bond Index – e
- TD Canadian Index – e
- TD Dow Jones Industrial AverageSM Index – e
- TD Dow Jones Industrial AverageSM Index ($US) – e
- TD European Index – e
- TD International Index
- TD International Index Currency Neutral
- TD Japanese Index – e
- TD Managed Index Aggressive Growth – e
- TD Managed Index Balanced Growth – e
- TD Managed Index Income – e
- TD Managed Index Income & Moderate Growth – e
- TD Managed Index Maximum Equity Growth – e
- TD Nasdaq® Index – e
- TD U.S. Index – e
- TD U.S. Index ($US) – e
- TD U.S. Index Currency Neutral – e
Here’s the original list of TD Canada Trust E-Series Mutual Funds.
NOW HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHICH INDEX MUTUAL FUNDS TO BUY?
As I said before, look for the LOWEST Management Expense Ratio (MER), or “fees”.
On each index fund you just need to look for the title: MER
Here’s a chart of each index fund with their MERs, information current as of December 17th 2013:
TD E-Series Mutual Funds (List as of December 17th 2013) | MER |
TD Canadian Bond Index – e | 0.50% |
TD Canadian Index – e | 0.33% |
TD Dow Jones Industrial AverageSM Index – e | 0.33% |
TD Dow Jones Industrial AverageSM Index ($US) – e | 0.33% |
TD European Index – e | 0.51% |
TD International Index | 0.51% |
TD International Index Currency Neutral | 0.54% |
TD Japanese Index – e | 0.53% |
TD Managed Index Aggressive Growth – e | 1.34% |
TD Managed Index Balanced Growth – e | 1.29% |
TD Managed Index Income – e | 1.19% |
TD Managed Index Income & Moderate Growth – e | 1.24% |
TD Managed Index Maximum Equity Growth – e | 1.39% |
TD Nasdaq® Index – e | 0.51% |
TD U.S. Index – e | 0.35% |
TD U.S. Index ($US) – e | 0.35% |
TD U.S. Index Currency Neutral – e | 0.51% |
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Now here it is in a prettier list to save:
(I do this because I love my readers so much.)
And because you (like me) can’t mentally sort through the index funds on the fly, I also sorted them to show the LOWEST MERs.
Some reasons why some funds cost more than others:
- Anything that is a higher risk, will require more “management”, and therefore will cost more money
- If they combine index funds to make them fancy (e.g. anything above with “Managed Index” in the name), it costs more money because there is more “management” involved
- Anything above 0.55% in an MER should make you think twice about buying it
- If they add things like “Currency Neutral” which requires fund “management” to hedge currencies, it will cost more money
- Any index funds that are international (not including the U.S. for us Canadians), are more expensive (e.g. European, International)
MY SHORT LIST OF WHAT TD E-SERIES INDEX FUNDS I USED TO BUY
You will notice that I have international index funds in there but that’s because I wanted to be diversified into international stocks as well and not just concentrate on Canada, the U.S. and Bonds.
You’ll notice I pretty much cut it off around the 0.51% MER mark. Frankly, it covers all you need to have a diversified portfolio.
*You do NOT need to open another account with TD Waterhouse to buy TD Canada Trust E-Series funds.
**Currency-neutral means it takes into account currency exchange fluctuations and takes into account the risk of that currency losing its value (also known as the practice of “hedging”). Generally speaking, the NON-Currency Neutral Mutual Funds are more volatile, and currency-neutral are less volatile.
***When it says ($US) like that, it means it’s held in U.S. dollars. Again, the fund hinges on how the USD fares.
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Now let’s look at Vanguard Canada’s Index Fund ETFS
These are FAR cheaper than the cheapest index fund offered by TD Canada Trust E-Series.
The lowest at TD Canada Trust is 0.33% as an MER.
The lowest at Vanguard Canada? 0.09%.
YOUCH!!!!
0.24% more expensive. Yuck.
HOW CAN YOU TELL WHICH ETF IS AN INDEX ETF / FUND?
Again, it says the word Index, it means it’s an index ETF.
They’re pretty much all Index ETFs.
Vanguard makes it SO EASY and puts the MER right there, front and center in a column right beside the ticker symbol you are supposed to buy to get that index ETF:
Here’s the list of Vanguard Canada’s ETFs in a list:
Vanguard Canada Fund Name (List as of December 17th 2013) | Stock Ticker Symbol | MER |
FTSE Canada All Cap Index ETF | VCN | 0.12% |
FTSE Canada Index ETF | VCE | 0.09% |
FTSE Canada All Cap Real Estate (REIT) Capped 25% Index ETF | VRE | 0.35% |
FTSE Canada High Dividend Yield Index ETF | VDY | 0.30% |
FTSE Developed ex North America Index ETF | VDU | 0.28% |
FTSE Developed ex North America Hedged CAD Index ETF | VEF | 0.28% |
FTSE Emerging Index ETF | VEE | 0.33% |
S&P 500 Index ETF | VFV | 0.15% |
S&P 500 Index (CAD-Hedged) ETF | VSP | 0.15% |
NASDAQ US Dividend Appreciation Achievers Select Index ETF | VGG | 0.28% |
NASDAQ US Dividend Appreciation Achievers Select Index (CAD-hedged) ETF | VGH | 0.28% |
U.S. Total Market Index ETF | VUN | 0.15% |
U.S. Total Market Index ETF (CAD-hedged) | VUS | 0.15% |
Canadian Aggregate Bond Index ETF | VAB | 0.20% |
Canadian Short-Term Bond Index ETF | VSB | 0.15% |
Canadian Short-Term Corporate Bond Index ETF | VSC | 0.15% |
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Now here it is in a prettier list to save:
Here is the same Vanguard Canada list sorted by MER (lowest to highest):
As you can see, even if you buy the most expensive REIT Index ETF it is about the price of the most basic index mutual fund offered by TD Canada Trust.
(THIS is why I love ETFs).
Some reasons why some index ETFs cost more than others:
- Anything that is a higher risk, will require more “management”, and therefore will cost more money
- If they combine index funds to make them fancy, it costs more money because there is more “management” involved
- Anything above 0.15% in an MER should make you think twice about buying it
- If they add things like “Currency Neutral” which requires fund “management” to hedge currencies, it will cost more money
- Any index funds that are international (not including the U.S. for us Canadians), are more expensive (e.g. European, International)
MY SHORT LIST OF VANGUARD INDEX FUNDS THAT I DO / WOULD PURCHASE:
This is current as of December 17th 2013.
They are constantly adding new funds, so you can’t go totally by this list. Go check out Vanguard Canada’s ETFs, and consider using the cheapest brokerage I have come across (Questrade) to buy them.. COMMISSION-FREE.
Yep. No $4.95 – $9.95 per trade fee. All ETFs on Questrade are COMMISSION-FREE.
- Questrade: Use my Questrade referral link for $50 in free trades.
What I do and do not (tend to purchase) as index fund ETFS:
- I do not bother with CAD-Hedged ETFs. I just don’t, even though the MERs cost the same.
- Currently, they do not offer European or International index ETFs, so I go to iShares Canada for that.
- I hold more than 50% of my portfolio in USD, which means I buy in USD directly, instead of in CAD
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iSHARES CANADA LIST OF ETFS
Just for completion’s sake, here are the iShares Canada ETFs (valid as of December 17th 2013):
iShares Fund Name (List valid as of Dec 17 2013) | Stock Ticker Symbol | MER |
1-10 Year Laddered Corporate Bond Index Fund | CBH | 0.25% |
1-10 Year Laddered Government Bond Index Fund | CLG | 0.15% |
1-5 Year Laddered Corporate Bond Index Fund | CBO | 0.25% |
1-5 Year Laddered Government Bond Index Fund | CLF | 0.15% |
Advantaged Short Duration High Income ETF | CSD.U | 0.55% |
Advantaged Short Duration High Income ETF | CSD | 0.55% |
Advantaged U.S. High Yield Bond Index ETF (CAD-Hedged) | CHB | 0.55% |
Alternatives Completion Portfolio Builder Fund | XAL | 0.70% |
Balanced Growth CorePortfolio(TM) Fund | CBN | 0.25% |
Balanced Income CorePortfolio(TM) Fund | CBD | 0.25% |
Big Bank Big Oil Split Corp | BBO | 0.90% |
BRIC Index Fund | CBQ | 0.60% |
Broad Commodity Index ETF (CAD-Hedged) | CBR | 0.80% |
Canadian Financial Monthly Income ETF | FIE | 0.65% |
Canadian Fundamental Index Fund | CRQ | 0.65% |
China All-Cap Index Fund | CHI | 0.70% |
China Index Fund | XCH | 0.85% |
CNX Nifty India Index ETF | XID | 0.98% |
Conservative Core Portfolio Builder Fund | XCR | 0.60% |
Convertible Bond Index ETF | CVD | 0.45% |
DEX All Corporate Bond Index Fund | XCB | 0.40% |
DEX All Government Bond Index Fund | XGB | 0.35% |
DEX Floating Rate Note Index Fund | XFR | 0.20% |
DEX HYBrid Bond Index Fund | XHB | 0.45% |
DEX Long Term Bond Index Fund | XLB | 0.35% |
DEX Real Return Bond Index Fund | XRB | 0.35% |
DEX Short Term Bond Index Fund | XSB | 0.25% |
DEX Short Term Corporate Universe + Maple Bond Index Fund | XSH | 0.25% |
DEX Universe Bond Index Fund | XBB | 0.30% |
Diversified Monthly Income Fund | XTR | 0.55% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Dividend Index Fund | XDV | 0.50% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Growth Index Fund | XCG | 0.50% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Value Index Fund | XCV | 0.50% |
Equal Weight Banc & Lifeco ETF | CEW | 0.55% |
Global Agriculture Index Fund | COW | 0.65% |
Global Completion Portfolio Builder Fund | XGC | 0.70% |
Global Infrastructure Index Fund | CIF | 0.65% |
Global Monthly Dividend Index ETF | CYH | 0.60% |
Global Real Estate Index Fund | CGR | 0.65% |
Gold Bullion ETF | CGL | 0.50% |
Gold Bullion ETF | CGL.C | 0.50% |
Growth Core Portfolio Builder Fund | XGR | 0.60% |
High Quality Canadian Bond Index ETF | CAB | 0.30% |
International Fundamental Index Fund | CIE | 0.65% |
iShares Emerging Markets Fundamental Index ETF | CWO | 0.65% |
iShares Silver Bullion ETF | SVR.C | 0.60% |
iShares Silver Bullion ETF | SVR | 0.60% |
J.P. Morgan USD Emerging Markets Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged | XEB | 0.72% |
Jantzi Social Index Fund | XEN | 0.50% |
Japan Fundamental Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | CJP | 0.65% |
Managed Futures Index ETF | CMF:CN | 0.95% |
MSCI All Country World Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMW | 0.45% |
MSCI Brazil Index Fund | XBZ | 0.75% |
MSCI Canada Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMV | 0.30% |
MSCI EAFE IMI Index ETF | XEF | 0.30% |
MSCI EAFE Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XIN | 0.50% |
MSCI EAFE Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMI | 0.45% |
MSCI Emerging Markets IMI ETF | XEC | 0.35% |
MSCI Emerging Markets Index Fund | XEM | 0.82% |
MSCI Emerging Markets Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMM | 0.79% |
MSCI USA Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMU | 0.30% |
MSCI World Index Fund | XWD | 0.44% |
NASDAQ 100 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XQQ | 0.35% |
Oil Sands Index Fund | CLO | 0.60% |
Premium Money Market ETF | CMR | 0.25% |
Russell 2000 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XSU | 0.35% |
S&P/TSX 60 Index Fund | XIU | 0.17% |
S&P/TSX Canadian Dividend Aristocrats Index Fund | CDZ | 0.60% |
S&P/TSX Canadian Preferred Share Index Fund | CPD | 0.45% |
S&P/TSX Capped Composite Index Fund | XIC | 0.25% |
S&P/TSX Capped Consumer Staples Index Fund | XST | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Energy Index Fund | XEG | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Financials Index Fund | XFN | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Information Technology Index Fund | XIT | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Materials Index Fund | XMA | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped REIT Index Fund | XRE | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Utilities Index Fund | XUT | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Completion Index Fund | XMD | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Equity Income Index Fund | XEI | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Base Metals Index Fund | XBM | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Gold Index Fund | XGD | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Mining Index Fund | CMW | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX North American Preferred Stock Index Fund (CAD-Hedge | XPF | 0.45% |
S&P/TSX SmallCap Index Fund | XCS | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Venture Index Fund | XVX | 0.79% |
S&P 500 Index ETF | XUS | 0.14% |
S&P 500 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XSP | 0.22% |
S&P Global Consumer Discretionary Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XCD | 0.63% |
S&P Global Healthcare Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHC | 0.63% |
S&P Global Industrials Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XGI | 0.63% |
S&P Global Water Index Fund | CWW | 0.60% |
S&P Latin America 40 Index Fund | XLA | 0.65% |
S&P US Dividend Growers Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | CUD | 0.60% |
U.S. High Dividend Equity Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHD | 0.30% |
U.S. High Yield Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHY | 0.60% |
U.S. IG Corporate Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XIG | 0.30% |
US Fundamental Index Fund | CLU.C | 0.65% |
US Fundamental Index Fund | CLU | 0.65% |
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Now here it is in a prettier list to save of all the ETFs:
ISHARES CANADA INDEX FUNDS ONLY & SORTED BY THE LOWEST MER
I eliminated anything that was not an index fund and kept it sorted by lowest MER:
This is a BIG.. BIG.. list.
List of iShares Fund Names | Stock Ticker Symbol | MER |
S&P 500 Index ETF | XUS | 0.14% |
1-10 Year Laddered Government Bond Index Fund | CLG | 0.15% |
1-5 Year Laddered Government Bond Index Fund | CLF | 0.15% |
S&P/TSX 60 Index Fund | XIU | 0.17% |
DEX Floating Rate Note Index Fund | XFR | 0.20% |
S&P 500 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XSP | 0.22% |
1-10 Year Laddered Corporate Bond Index Fund | CBH | 0.25% |
1-5 Year Laddered Corporate Bond Index Fund | CBO | 0.25% |
DEX Short Term Bond Index Fund | XSB | 0.25% |
DEX Short Term Corporate Universe + Maple Bond Index Fund | XSH | 0.25% |
S&P/TSX Capped Composite Index Fund | XIC | 0.25% |
DEX Universe Bond Index Fund | XBB | 0.30% |
High Quality Canadian Bond Index ETF | CAB | 0.30% |
MSCI Canada Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMV | 0.30% |
MSCI EAFE IMI Index ETF | XEF | 0.30% |
MSCI USA Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMU | 0.30% |
U.S. High Dividend Equity Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHD | 0.30% |
U.S. IG Corporate Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XIG | 0.30% |
DEX All Government Bond Index Fund | XGB | 0.35% |
DEX Long Term Bond Index Fund | XLB | 0.35% |
DEX Real Return Bond Index Fund | XRB | 0.35% |
NASDAQ 100 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XQQ | 0.35% |
Russell 2000 Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XSU | 0.35% |
DEX All Corporate Bond Index Fund | XCB | 0.40% |
MSCI World Index Fund | XWD | 0.44% |
Convertible Bond Index ETF | CVD | 0.45% |
DEX HYBrid Bond Index Fund | XHB | 0.45% |
MSCI All Country World Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMW | 0.45% |
MSCI EAFE Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMI | 0.45% |
S&P/TSX Canadian Preferred Share Index Fund | CPD | 0.45% |
S&P/TSX North American Preferred Stock Index Fund (CAD-Hedge | XPF | 0.45% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Dividend Index Fund | XDV | 0.50% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Growth Index Fund | XCG | 0.50% |
Dow Jones Canada Select Value Index Fund | XCV | 0.50% |
Jantzi Social Index Fund | XEN | 0.50% |
MSCI EAFE Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XIN | 0.50% |
Advantaged U.S. High Yield Bond Index ETF (CAD-Hedged) | CHB | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Consumer Staples Index Fund | XST | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Energy Index Fund | XEG | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Financials Index Fund | XFN | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Information Technology Index Fund | XIT | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Materials Index Fund | XMA | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped REIT Index Fund | XRE | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Capped Utilities Index Fund | XUT | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Completion Index Fund | XMD | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Equity Income Index Fund | XEI | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Base Metals Index Fund | XBM | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Gold Index Fund | XGD | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX Global Mining Index Fund | CMW | 0.55% |
S&P/TSX SmallCap Index Fund | XCS | 0.55% |
BRIC Index Fund | CBQ | 0.60% |
Global Monthly Dividend Index ETF | CYH | 0.60% |
Oil Sands Index Fund | CLO | 0.60% |
S&P/TSX Canadian Dividend Aristocrats Index Fund | CDZ | 0.60% |
S&P Global Water Index Fund | CWW | 0.60% |
S&P US Dividend Growers Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | CUD | 0.60% |
U.S. High Yield Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHY | 0.60% |
S&P Global Consumer Discretionary Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XCD | 0.63% |
S&P Global Healthcare Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XHC | 0.63% |
S&P Global Industrials Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | XGI | 0.63% |
Canadian Fundamental Index Fund | CRQ | 0.65% |
Global Agriculture Index Fund | COW | 0.65% |
Global Infrastructure Index Fund | CIF | 0.65% |
Global Real Estate Index Fund | CGR | 0.65% |
International Fundamental Index Fund | CIE | 0.65% |
iShares Emerging Markets Fundamental Index ETF | CWO | 0.65% |
Japan Fundamental Index Fund (CAD-Hedged) | CJP | 0.65% |
S&P Latin America 40 Index Fund | XLA | 0.65% |
US Fundamental Index Fund | CLU.C | 0.65% |
US Fundamental Index Fund | CLU | 0.65% |
China All-Cap Index Fund | CHI | 0.70% |
J.P. Morgan USD Emerging Markets Bond Index Fund (CAD-Hedged | XEB | 0.72% |
MSCI Brazil Index Fund | XBZ | 0.75% |
MSCI Emerging Markets Minimum Volatility Index Fund | XMM | 0.79% |
S&P/TSX Venture Index Fund | XVX | 0.79% |
Broad Commodity Index ETF (CAD-Hedged) | CBR | 0.80% |
MSCI Emerging Markets Index Fund | XEM | 0.82% |
China Index Fund | XCH | 0.85% |
Managed Futures Index ETF | CMF:CN | 0.95% |
CNX Nifty India Index ETF | XID | 0.98% |
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Here’s the pretty list:
Depending on how you want to build your portfolio taking into account diversifying it across Canada, the U.S., bonds and the world, you have to basically go through it again and sort it out and look for words like:
- S&P 500 — U.S. index fund
- TSX — Canada’s index fund
- Bonds
- BRIC — this refers to Brazil, Russia, India, China or the 4 “hottest” emerging markets (very risky)
- EAFE –this refers to Europe, Australasia, & the Far East
..and then you also have industries of each index fund such as Real Estate or Utilities.
HERE’S MY SHORT LIST OF iSHARES FUNDS I’D CONSIDER
For MER’s, I’d stop around 0.30% – 0.35%….which would also cover any international index funds (read: EAFE).
Any higher and you might as well buy from TD Canada Trust’s E-Series.
Personally I’d just stick to Vanguard Canada for your major markets (Canada, U.S.A., Bonds), and go to iShares Canada for index funds that cover international and emerging markets.
..at least until Vanguard Canada comes up with their list.
Again, in Canada to buy index fund ETFs you need to go with a brokerage like Questrade.
- Questrade: Use my Questrade referral link for $50 in free trades.
Enjoy!
9 Comments
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Tracy
Thanks for this post! Just in the nick of time! I just wrote a post about how I’m paying super high MERS without having realized it and am going to switch to TD investments.
Do you invest in USD to reduce currency exchange risk? How do you do this? I understand that it’s more optimal than buying all shares in Canadian, but not quite sure how you would perform these transactions. Do you just switch CAD to USD and then invest the USD?
Rockinon
I believe there is more to investing than finding the lowest MER. The TD Monthly Income fund does not have the lowest MER yet it outperforms many of the e-funds that you, and many others, suggest are a better bet. If I’d put $500 thousand in both TDB622 (MER 1.47%) and in TDB854 (TD Managed Index Maximum Equity Growth Portfolio – e) and then taken $20,000 out every December to live in retirement, today I’d have removed a total of $140,000.00 by now. With the TD Monthly Income I’d still have $778,704.18 in my account. If I’d followed your advice, I’d only have $759,177.39 in my account. The Monthly Income fund beats the e-fund by $19,526.79. And in a down market, TDB622 is probably not going to fall as far as the e-fund. The TDB622 has a lot of exposure to bonds to lessen volatility. I tried this with another e-fund you suggested and the spread was brutal. The spread was more than a hundred thousand in the Monthly Income fund’s favour. p.s. Today there is a D-series fund, TDB3085, that I believe is simply TDB622 with a lower D-series MER. This means this new D-series fund has a lower MER than the e-fund I used in my example above. Cheers! (I did like your post, by the way, but I believe you may have overstated the argument in for e-funds.)